Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

02/22/2007 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 7 FELONS' RIGHT TO VOTE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 7(STA) Out of Committee
*+ SB 35 APPROP: FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 35(STA) Out of Committee
+= SB 36 SENTENCING FOR ALCOHOL-RELATED CRIMES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 36(STA) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= HB 21 DISPOSAL OF STATE FLAG
Moved CSHB 21(STA) Out of Committee
= SB 43 CONTRIBUTIONS FROM PERM. FUND DIVIDENDS
Moved CSSB 43(STA) Out of Committee
                      SB  35-APPROP: FUNDS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE announced the consideration of SB 35.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:11:04 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GARY WILKEN, Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor of SB 35,                                                               
said that during the last election  he had to correct four people                                                               
who  said the  state spent  everything last  year. "Last  year we                                                               
saved  46 percent  of our  surplus," which  was $649  million, he                                                               
said. Some people knew it  but characterized savings as spending,                                                               
and some  simply didn't know it.  He said there are  "a couple of                                                               
billion dollars in surplus  in 07 and 08, and so  I wanted to get                                                               
out to the  folks that we have  places that we can  put that." SB
35  is   an  appropriation   fund,  called   "bank-a-billion"  in                                                               
marketing  terms. He  said Alaska  revenues  will be  record-high                                                               
from  the new  profit-based petroleum  tax,  but it  will not  be                                                               
known  until  March or  later.  SB  35  will save  this  expected                                                               
surplus  of $1.35  billion into  four separate  savings accounts:                                                               
$250 million  each to the  Public Education Fund;  Alaska Housing                                                               
Finance  Corporation  (AHFC)   capital  account;  Permanent  Fund                                                               
Earnings  Reserve  Account;  and  Constitutional  Budget  Reserve                                                               
Account.  "The deposit  of a  billion dollars  in four  separate,                                                               
unique accounts forces the Legislature  to save for the future, a                                                               
time when our  state's financial picture might  be different than                                                               
today."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:14:25 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR FRENCH asked  what the status is of  the public education                                                               
fund and what the governor is planning for it.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said  last year there was $565  million, "which we                                                               
used," and  there is now  $509 million. The governor  proposes to                                                               
drain that to fund K-12. "The effect  of that would be to use the                                                               
$509 million,  but then  you would  not use  your surplus  so the                                                               
surplus,  on June  30, would  automatically…that particular  $509                                                               
million  would   then  drift  into  the   [Constitutional  Budget                                                               
Reserve]."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  said if  the legislature  spent within  its means                                                               
and  kept  the  budget  somewhere   between  the  governor's  and                                                               
legislature's budget, all this money  would be swept into the CBR                                                               
at the end of the fiscal year.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said, yes. The  bill would divert three fourths of                                                               
that to three separate accounts.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked for the current AHFC capital account.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN said  $300 million  was put  in that  account. He                                                               
noted that  "we all thought,  last year,  that we had  taken $300                                                               
million and put  it into a capital account" in  AHFC, but that is                                                               
not  the case,  because it  is still  in the  general fund,  "and                                                               
there's a fence around  it." Lines 1-5 on page 2  of the bill are                                                               
incorrect, and he said he has  an amendment to fix it. That money                                                               
is currently  roped off  in the  general fund,  so the  bill will                                                               
move another $250 million to it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  asked if the  amendment would move the  funds out                                                               
of the general fund into the AHFC capital account itself.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN said  no, it  matches the  $250 million  with the                                                               
$300 million that is in the general fund.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH surmised it would  still reside there with a fence                                                               
around it.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said  he just found out about  this yesterday. The                                                               
bill is  written for  money to  go into  the revolving  fund, and                                                               
that  isn't correct.  "I don't  think any  of us  knew that  this                                                               
hadn't been  moved over  into Alaska  Housing Finance  fund." The                                                               
important point is that it is roped off, he stated.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked if an  appropriation is generally made to the                                                               
AHFC capital account.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  said, no, former  Governor Murkowski  wanted $400                                                               
million, "and  so we took  that and said,  OK let's rope  it off,                                                               
but if you don't need it, it could be used for something else."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:18:36 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  FRENCH asked  what currently  is in  the Permanent  Fund                                                               
Earnings Reserve Account and the Constitutional Budget Reserve.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN  said the  permanent  fund  had $4.5  billion  in                                                               
realized  earnings, and  the  Constitutional  Budget Reserve  had                                                               
$2.46 billion at the end of December.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:19:06 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GREEN  made a  motion to adopt  Amendment 1,  labeled 25-                                                               
LS0271\C.1, Kane, as follows:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 3:                                                                                                            
          Delete "housing finance revolving fund"                                                                             
          Insert "Housing Finance Corporation"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 1 - 5:                                                                                                       
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
        "* Sec.  3. ALASKA HOUSING FINANCE  CORPORATION. The                                                                
     sum  of  $250,000,000  is appropriated  to  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Housing Finance Corporation for  the purpose of funding                                                                    
     capital  projects, including  financing expenses,  from                                                                    
     the   general   fund    available   after   all   other                                                                    
     appropriations  for  the  fiscal year  ending  June 30,                                                                    
     2007,  are  accounted  for,   but  before  the  deposit                                                                    
     required  under art.  IX, sec.  17(d), Constitution  of                                                                    
     the State of  Alaska, is made. It is the  intent of the                                                                    
     legislature   that    the   Alaska    Housing   Finance                                                                    
     Corporation may  transfer this  money and  the earnings                                                                    
     to  a   subsidiary  of   the  Alaska   Housing  Finance                                                                    
     Corporation   on   or   after   July 1,   2007,   under                                                                    
     AS 18.56.086."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE  announced  that without  objection,  Amendment  1                                                               
carried.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN asked  why  Senator Wilken  used  a dollar  figure                                                               
instead of a percentage for the funds in the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN said  the  term, bank-a-billion  is  cute and  it                                                               
works. He  said the legislature should  have a sense of  how much                                                               
it wants  to save. He  said "all of us"  worked on it  last year,                                                               
and campaign time came "and  we struggled to talk about savings."                                                               
He said "savings" was a four-letter  word for many years, and the                                                               
state is blessed with surpluses,  and savings is not spending, he                                                               
explained, "you spend it into a savings account."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN  asked if the  bill should  say "at least"  in case                                                               
the surplus is higher.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN said  that  number will  move  around in  finance                                                               
committee, "the point  being, let's save something.  Let's put it                                                               
in four places that we can access at a future time."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:22:11 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR McGUIRE said  she likes that there are  four places because                                                               
everyone  has  ideas  about  where  to  save.  She  struggled  to                                                               
convince her  constituents that  money was  set aside  last year.                                                               
This is a  vehicle that the finance committee can  deal with. She                                                               
said,  "We don't  know what  the numbers  will be  or if  they'll                                                               
change or even if those pots  of money will be allocated slightly                                                               
differently, but…the finance committee  would be a better resting                                                               
place for it…until those numbers come in."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN  made a motion  to report  SB 35, as  amended, from                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal                                                               
note(s).  Hearing   no  objections,   CSSB  35(STA)   moved  from                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

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